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		<title>Sour Water Handling And Treatment System</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p  class=""><strong>Need an expert opinion on the design of the sour water handling system. Is this design workable or not?</strong></p>
<p>As per the PFDs, a mixture of sour water and 50% hydrocarbons enters a three-phase separator operating at 185 psig and 120°F. The separator is provided with an LCV to control the liquid level. This LCV also reduces the pressure of the sour water from 185 psig to atmospheric pressure.</p>
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<p>After separation, the sour water, containing 0.12 mol% H₂S, is routed to an atmospheric storage tank (internal floating roof tank) through an 8-inch line. The tank is provided with an 8-inch water inlet nozzle, which is submerged below the liquid level. The minimum tank liquid level is 4 meters, while the tank is 18 meters high and 15 meters in diameter.</p>
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<p>The tank is equipped with a PVRV designed for thermal breathing. An H₂S adsorbent bed is installed on the tank vent line to treat the vented vapor before discharge to the atmosphere. The tank is also provided with nitrogen blanketing to maintain the required tank pressure.</p>
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<p>The tank is an internal floating roof tank. The design sour water flow rate is 6,000 bbl/day, while the actual operating flow rate is approximately 2,000 bbl/day.</p>
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<p>Appreciate any major concerns with this design. The project is about to start based on the provided design by the engineering contractor.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 18:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Htri Automation Server</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi<br>
I want to connect paython to HTRI by using "Htri automation server" but I can not find any help about that. Does any one have information or sample about that]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2026 08:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Working With Old/paper Pump Performance Curves — How Do You Convert An</title>
		<link>https://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/32958-working-with-oldpaper-pump-performance-curves-—-how-do-you-convert-and-re-rate-them/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[
	<span  style="font-size:14px;font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;">I've been thinking about a problem that comes up when working with older pump data: you have a manufacturer's performance curve from an old project, catalogue, or paper document, but the original digital data is no longer available — and sometimes the OEM product line itself is no longer active.</span>

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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">The curve may still be perfectly useful, but you're left with a scanned or paper Q-H curve rather than a digital dataset.</span></span></p>
<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">Curious how others here deal with this:</span></span></p>
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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">Do you digitize the curve manually and recreate the Q-H data in Excel or another tool?</span></span></p>
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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">How do you handle interpolation between the published points?</span></span></p>
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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">When the operating conditions change, how do you generate a revised curve using speed or impeller diameter changes?</span></span></p>
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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">For old curves, how do you handle efficiency and NPSHr data when only the original plotted curves are available?</span></span></p>
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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">For pumps in series or parallel, do you digitize and combine the curves yourself?</span></span></p>
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<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">I've ended up building an Excel workbook for my own work that takes a pump performance curve from a paper/PDF/image source, converts it into a usable digital curve, and then allows the curve to be evaluated under changed operating conditions using the relevant scaling relationships. It also allows the resulting performance data to be generated in a usable engineering format.</span></span></p>
<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">The reason I built it was mainly to make older or otherwise inaccessible pump curves usable again — particularly where the original OEM digital selection software or product database is no longer available.</span></span></p>
<p><span  style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;"><span  style="font-size:14px">Happy to share what I developed if anyone is interested. I'm mainly interested in how others here approach this problem and whether there are established methods or tools that you use.</span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2026 13:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Hydrate Temperature Prediction Calculator</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>See below for a calculator which predicts the hydrate formation temperature of natural gas systems. Sharing in case someone needs it&nbsp;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Water Draw Off Arrangement For Condensate Stabilizer Column</title>
		<link>https://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/32954-water-draw-off-arrangement-for-condensate-stabilizer-column/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">Dear All,</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">I would like to seek opinion/feedback on the water draw off arrangement for the condensate stabilizer column. Please refer the attached sketch.</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">In the Condensate stabilizer column, water draw offs are routed to separate Side vessel (top entry); the decanted water is removed via LV-200 from bottom.</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">There is no liquid Hydrocarbon outlet provided. I am not sure whether this arrangement will work? I have seen few designs, where entry to side drum is from the middle, with HC routed back to column from top and water from bottom. Appreciate if someone can provide how this arrangement will function? Thanks in advance.</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Mdea Solvet</title>
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		<description>using activated MDEA + PZ solution for natural gas decarbonization, what is the typical packing height for common structured and random packings, such as Pall rings or 250Y structured packing? Also, where can I find or look up empirical HETP (Height Equivalent to a Theoretical Plate) data。</description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2026 11:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Coke Formation In Ethane And Naphtha Cracking</title>
		<link>https://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/32949-coke-formation-in-ethane-and-naphtha-cracking/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[During ethane and naphtha cracking , which furnace is produce soft (for oxidation) coke .<br>
Ethane or naphtha?<br>
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I am asking about coke deposition before decoking activity.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Temp Of Flare Header For Stress Analysis</title>
		<link>https://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/32945-temp-of-flare-header-for-stress-analysis/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;<span  style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:#000000">Dear friends,</span></p>
<p><span  style="color:#000000"><span  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span  style="font-size:12pt">I am calculating the actual temperature of the flaring gas </span></span></span><span  style="color:#000000"><span  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span  style="font-size:12pt">from our Vacuum Distillation Tower</span></span></span><span  style="color:#000000"><span  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span  style="font-size:12pt"> where a stream of gas (C11H24) at a temperature of 400 C, a pressure of 4.5 barg, enters a flare header with a diameter of 32 inches and a length of 600 meters. Given that the ambient temperature is 48 C</span>, according to heat transfer calculations, on average, the gas temperature drops to 340 degrees at the end of pipe. But this temperature for stress analysis calculations has led to the addition of several loops in the design. Does anyone have any experience in this regard? Isn't the temperature of the pipe wall much lower in practice due to the actual heat transfer with the environment as well as radiation, for example, below 200 degrees? If the temperature drops more in practice , the number of loops caused by the stress analysis calculations will really decrease. I would like to thank you for helping me.</span></span></p>
<p><span  style="color:#000000"><span  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span  style="font-size:12pt">Araboni</span></span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[How To Size A Presure Equalization Line For A 10&#34; Pipeline Valve]]></title>
		<link>https://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/32941-how-to-size-a-presure-equalization-line-for-a-10-pipeline-valve/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>HELLO EVERYONE,&nbsp;</p>
<p>SO BASICLY WE WANT TO SIZE A PRESURE EQUALIZATION LINE FOR A 10" PIPELINE VALVE (KIND OF BY-PASS) TO EQUALIZE THE DOWNSTREAM OF THE 10" VALVE DE TO A VERY HIGH DP BETWEEN UPSTREAM AND DOWNSREAM OF THE VALVE.</p>
<p>THE PIPELINE CARRY A 85 BAR LPG.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2026 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Vacuum Total Condenser With Flooded Surface Control During Turndown</title>
		<link>https://www.cheresources.com/invision/topic/32930-vacuum-total-condenser-with-flooded-surface-control-during-turndown/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">Hi everyone,</span><br>
<br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">I am designing a total condenser operating under full vacuum conditions. The process involves steam entering the shell side at 165°C and leaving as condensate. The tube side uses a process gas as a coolant (80,000 kg/h) in a U-tube bundle (2 passes). The exchanger is relatively "short and fat" (approx. 1000 mm length x 740 mm diameter), in BXU configuration.</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">The main challenge is the very low steam flow (5,000 kg/h) relative to the s&t size, which creates significant hydraulic distribution and duty control issues.</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">I have tested these configurations</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">1. BXU: Pressure drop is concentrated 100% in the inlet nozzle. The bundle is hydraulically "transparent" (approx 0.3 kPa in the cross). This clearly violates the rule of thumb of bundle pressure drop &gt; 66.7%of the total to ensure flow uniformity. Without this resistance, I am concerned about a localized "rain effect" directly under the nozzle, leaving the rest of the 1-meter bundle ineffective</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">2. BJ21U: Similar results. Despite the divided flow, the longitudinal velocity is too low to "activate" the bundle hydraulically.</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">3. TEMA BGU :This configuration performs better regarding distribution because the longitudinal baffle and the required path force a higher internal resistance.</span><br>
<br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">The system uses Flooded Surface Control (varying the condensate level to adjust active surface area).</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">For a BGU design, the longitudinal baffle must be continuously welded to the shell. Does this create excessive thermal stress risks in vacuum service, or is it a non-issue for a 1-meter shell?</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">If I still use a Type X , is the combination of an Annular Distributor (Vapor Belt) and a perforated Distribution Plate (min. 20% open area) considered reliable enough to satisfy the 2/3 Rule and distribute vapor over such a short bundle?</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">Given that the BGU uses segmental baffles (even with 12 mm drainage notches), is the condensate level control as linear and stable as in a Type X, which provides a perfectly flat free surface?</span><br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">In the worst-case clean turndown, what measures would you recommend to mitigate water hammer risks in the presence of low-pressure vapor?</span><br>
<br>
<span  style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Segoe UI', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', sans-serif;font-size:15px;">I would appreciate insights from anyone who has dealt with this type.of vacuum condensers and the trade-offs between cross-flow and split-flow hydraulics. Is type G suitable for this case? I have to evaluate the submerged area during the turndown? Would you still make a Type X or Type J with a vapor belt and perforated plate instead of a Type G? Although with vapor belts the situation in terms of DP would not improve much?</span><br>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 12:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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