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phoenixwishess
Jan 15 2014 02:50 AM

if you say minimum recycle line shall approx be 25 to 30 % of the forward flow line but i have seen in one P&ID as under :

 

discharge line ( forward line ) for pump is 3 inches

minimum recycle flow line is  also 3 inches ( same as forward flow line) 

 

my inderstanding is that is must be lesser than forwad flow line ( discharge ) of pump.

 

 

2ndly there is SDV on the combine header of the dieschage lines of parralel pumps . if SDV shuts down , the maximum flow will flow back through reclyle line of each pump therefore minimum recycle line is same as forward line ( discharge ) of pump .

 

please clarifiy ? i will be thankful for your advise 

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Shishir Vikash Singh
Mar 20 2014 11:11 PM
 

 

 

your article was much worthy 

 

if you say minimum recycle line shall approx be 25 to 30 % of the forward flow line but i have seen in one P&ID as under :

 

discharge line ( forward line ) for pump is 3 inches

minimum recycle flow line is  also 3 inches ( same as forward flow line) 

 

my inderstanding is that is must be lesser than forwad flow line ( discharge ) of pump.

 

 

2ndly there is SDV on the combine header of the dieschage lines of parralel pumps . if SDV shuts down , the maximum flow will flow back through reclyle line of each pump therefore minimum recycle line is same as forward line ( discharge ) of pump .

 

please clarifiy ? i will be thankful for your advise 

 

 

Dear phoenixwishess

 

 

As per my understanding, Mr. Ankur is talking about the re circulation flow which should be 25-30% of the forward flow and not the line size.

 

In addition to above, as per my understanding, the minimum flow recycle line is provided so that the pump doesn't run below the minimal flow condition. There is no harm if the flow is more than the minimal flow required in the recycle line. So I think there is no problem if the recycle line has the maximum flow as per your statement.

 

Regards

Shishir 

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alanherickson
Oct 20 2015 02:39 PM

 

Sir,

 

Please reply with answers to above queries

Ayush,

 

I had already answered your question in the main blog entry. I will repeat my answer here:

 

Your statement is incorrect. The pump efficiency will be low but it cannot be zero. The pump is still running against a blocked discharge and the mechanical energy from the driver of the pump is being lost by generating heat in the pump casing instead of overcoming the head as change in the potential energy of the liquid being pumped

This can be proven through the power equation for any pump:

P = Q*H*ρ*g / 3600*η*1000

where:

P = power, kW
Q = volumetric flow rate, m3/h
H = head, m
ρ = density, kg/m3
g = 9.81 m/s2 (grav. constant)
η = efficiency, %

If η becomes zero the power required at shut-off would be infinity which is not correct. Hope it is clear now that efficiency is not zero at shut-off.

Regards,
Ankur.

 

But this equation also shows that if the flow is zero, power is zero, so this equation cannot be valid at zero flow!

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Hashim AlMossawi
Apr 06 2016 06:20 PM

Thank you so much for your effort. It is very useful spreadsheet. Just I need some clarification.

Thank you again! 


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