Dear all,
We are designing a methanol unloading&storage terminal. At the current stage of the project, it is desired to check the applicability to purge the line to battery limit that is full of methanol using nitrogen. The project does not foresee a dedicated closed drain for the drainage of methanol. Therefore, it is assumed that it will be possible to empty the line via vacuum trucks.
Can anybody comment on this process, both on operation and safety side. Operation experiences on vacuum trucks are also appreciated. (Is a methanol vapor-air mixture possible inside the vacuum truck?)
Thanks in advance
|

Vacuum Truck For Drainage Purposes
Started by ist10, May 22 2012 01:34 PM
2 replies to this topic
Share this topic:
#1
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:34 PM
#2
Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:15 AM
ist10,
Yes, a methanol-air mixture vapor pocket in the vacuum truck is possible simply because the methanol-air mixture would be heavier than nitrogen. You would need to have an initial purging by nitogen gas to purge out the air through the vacuum truck before you start applying vacuum at the truck to suck out the liquid methanol from the line to the truck.
As far as safety part is concerned you need to know the concentration of the methanol-air mixture which is flammable based on the Lower Flammable Limit (LFL) and the Upper Flammable Limit (UFL). Any hydrcarbon-air mixture which is below the LFL is too lean to form a flammable mixture and any hydrocarbon-air mixture above the UFL is too rich to form a flammable mixture. A safety concern arises when the hydrocarbon-air mixture is between the LFL & the UFL and appropriate safety measures are required to prevent a fire / explosion.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ankur.
Yes, a methanol-air mixture vapor pocket in the vacuum truck is possible simply because the methanol-air mixture would be heavier than nitrogen. You would need to have an initial purging by nitogen gas to purge out the air through the vacuum truck before you start applying vacuum at the truck to suck out the liquid methanol from the line to the truck.
As far as safety part is concerned you need to know the concentration of the methanol-air mixture which is flammable based on the Lower Flammable Limit (LFL) and the Upper Flammable Limit (UFL). Any hydrcarbon-air mixture which is below the LFL is too lean to form a flammable mixture and any hydrocarbon-air mixture above the UFL is too rich to form a flammable mixture. A safety concern arises when the hydrocarbon-air mixture is between the LFL & the UFL and appropriate safety measures are required to prevent a fire / explosion.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ankur.
#3
Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:01 PM
Thanks Ankur,
I was not pretty sure about whether air will be present or not during vacuum truck operation and this clears my doubts.
definitely helps
I was not pretty sure about whether air will be present or not during vacuum truck operation and this clears my doubts.
definitely helps
Similar Topics
Vacuum RecoveryStarted by Guest_Paper_* , 25 Feb 2025 |
|
![]() |
||
![]() Vacuum SystemStarted by Guest_panoska_* , 21 Oct 2024 |
|
![]() |
||
![]() Vacuum Getting Disturbed Periodically In Vacuum UnitStarted by Guest_aka28_* , 08 Oct 2024 |
|
![]() |
||
Air Flow Into A Tank At Partial VacuumStarted by Guest_rajaking666_* , 25 Jul 2024 |
|
![]() |
||
![]() Oxygen In A Tank Pulling VacuumStarted by Guest_Hash90_* , 26 Jul 2024 |
|
![]() |