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[Mirzazada]

Hello!
Currently I am responsible for designing a storage tank for butadiene (including vent systems, blanketing and etc.) as a part of my final project. However, I am confused about the pressure and temperature choice. As far as I know, API620 is widely used for spherical tank design. I want to refer to the mentioned guideline, however it is only applicable for upto 15Psig. On the other hand, I have seen so many references where design pressure for liquified butadiene tanks are around 3-4 barg.
1)So which guideline should I choose for Temperature and Pressure choice?
2) Let’s say that I want to store 3000kL liquified butadiene in a certain tank. What should be the maximum capacity for storage tank itself? I guess I should leave some blank space, but not sure about the size of that space.
P.S. questions may seem a bit trivial, but I am new to this area.
Any kind of help is appreciated! Thank you beforehand!

[Pilesar]

Consider this reference for research: 

https://www.american...ance-Manual.pdf

[latexman]

In general, an API 620 tank (low pressure) would be refrigerated storage and an ASME Code pressure vessel would be ambient storage.  In both cases during relieving incidents there will be auto-refrigeration.  Brittle fracture will be a mighty issue, so notch-tough carbon steels or alloy steels should be chosen and tested to comply with national code requirements.

 

We have a few Buta spheres.

[breizh]

Hi,

other documents.

let you try your favorite search engine :key words :Horton sphere storage tank .

 

10% free capacity is a good number to prevent overflow and other expansion due to temperature increase (link underneath ), pay attention to the risk of polymerization on the ceiling of the tank , regular TBC content is a "must check " in the tank together with COA at delivery . 

 

http://www.tankspan....mgs/ullage.html

 

Good luck 

 

Breizh 

Edited by breizh, 27 March 2021 - 11:01 PM.

[Mirzazada]

Thank you!

[Mirzazada]

In general, an API 620 tank (low pressure) would be refrigerated storage and an ASME Code pressure vessel would be ambient storage. In both cases during relieving incidents there will be auto-refrigeration. Brittle fracture will be a mighty issue, so notch-tough carbon steels or alloy steels should be chosen and tested to comply with national code requirements.

We have a few Buta spheres.

[Mirzazada]

Very nice point????I had no idea about the possibility of JT or autorefrigeration case. Thank you!

[Mirzazada]

Consider this reference for research:
https://www.american...ance-Manual.pdf

[Mirzazada]

Thank you! It was very helpful

[ChEf]

I would suggest storing it in a pressurized vessel at ambient temperature. The safest design is storing it in a mounded bullet. Vessel design according to the ASME code.

[milindns]

Hi, can anyone help me to understand how to transfer butadiene from a cylinder to a feed vessel? The cylinder pressure is 2 to 3 bar.

Edited by milindns, 01 March 2024 - 10:11 AM.

[latexman]

You can pump the liquid, lower pressure in the feed vessel, and/or raise pressure in the cylinder.  We use a pump.  We get BD in railcar and tank truck and pump it into a sphere.  The sphere vent ties back into the vapor space of the shipping vessel when it is un-loading.

 

Next time, please start a new thread in Student Forum.  Your profile says you are a student.  What you did is called "piling on" to an old thread.  To make the forum more searchable in the future we try to keep things separated and on topic.

 

Here, read the Guidelines / Rules for Posting, especially #2.

[breizh]

Hi,

Latexman is right, don't jump in an existing post.

For bigger quantities (much bigger) , my experience with butadiene , to transfer from a barge to a sphere is to use a compressor.

I've similar experience with Ammonia from rail car to bullet tank. 

In both cases it was a Corken brand.

Breizh

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