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[04_che_uet]

my professor has given an assignment and i need your help coz it has a cash prize of Rs 500 for that student who comes up with maximum number of symbols................it is to be sumited on 'thursday' next week on 21 feb
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Assignment = creat a symbols library which are used in creatin P&IDs
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plz guys help me to win this prize

[Art Montemayor]

04_che_uet:

You are wasting valuable time by asking us for "help" when you haven't even stated what kind or quantity of help you need. You are breaking the cardinal rule in Chemical Engineering studies: BE SPECIFIC AND DETAILED when seeking help.

The problem of creating PFD and P&ID symbols to use in Chemical Engineering documentation and drawings is already worked out for you. I have posted various Excel Workbooks in these Forums for FREE download - especially in the Student Forum. You should be using your time to plan and organize a list of symbols you can draw (or collect) and list in Excel. I even authored an Excel workbook on "HOW TO DRAW IN EXCEL" - which gives you a step-by-step instruction and illustration of how to create Excel symbols and drawings. All you have to do is execute a SEARCH function in the Forums and you will find the Excel Workbooks for download.

Your professor is not teaching you good Chemical Engineering basics. The target of his assignment should be the QUALITY of the symbols, NOT the QUANTITY. It is the basic principle of all PFDs and P&IDs to communicate ACCURATELY and this has nothing to do with how many symbols you employ. In fact, the less the quantity of symbols used (the simpler the diagram), the more effective and accurate the diagram will be. But that's OK; at least he/she are trying to teach you how to communicate with diagrams. You should not only find sufficent material in my Excel Workbooks, but you should also learn from them how to generate even more detailed symbols that should ensure that you win the 500 rupees.

Unless other students in your class read this thread, you should win the contest easily.

Good Luck.

[Zauberberg]

ChE,

Are you interested only in winning the price?
My friend, you should play lottery instead or you should start a carrier as a stuntman - it will bring you much more money and many beautiful girls around you.

P&IDs are simply not good enough for this...

Best of luck,

[04_che_uet]

@Montemayor
i have done this collecting and drawing of symbols during my internships .... you know every time you go they give you pnidz on ur first day........ i have a hard copyof it but to fit it in assignment some changes were nessecery and insted of drawing all those 150+ symbols again on cad i asked for help ...............and you said, i should mention quantity of help .... i think this depends on you how much you want to help .......nways thxn for xl hepl i never had even a tiny miny idea that you can draw a whole pnid on xl n one again thxn for such SPECIFIC AND DETAILED reply ............ ........

@Zauberberg
!@#$%^&*() ......... theres something wrong with my keyboard i will talk to you later.

[gvdlans]

i have done this collecting and drawing of symbols during my internships .... you know every time you go they give you pnidz on ur first day........ i have a hard copyof it but to fit it in assignment some changes were nessecery and insted of drawing all those 150+ symbols again on cad i asked for help ...............and you said, i should mention quantity of help .... i think this depends on you how much you want to help .......nways thxn for xl hepl i never had even a tiny miny idea that you can draw a whole pnid on xl n one again thxn for such SPECIFIC AND DETAILED reply ............ ........

Could you please repeat this in English?

[04_che_uet]

Could you please repeat this in English?

i think its in english .................... i know my english is not good .......... i just thanked art for his help....................were you kidding or serious?

[joerd]

You might try:
a) a good spell checker (Firefox has one built-in)
b) http://www.englishcl...ng/spelling.htm
c) http://www.say-it-in...icEnglish1.html

Expressing yourself clearly and correctly will vastly increase your chance of success in your career ( http://www.gandy.ca/news.php?opt=12 ).

Good luck

[djack77494]

You'll find that in the engineering DISCIPLINE, precision and accuracy are valued and even required attributes of successful communication. Since you do not seem to recognize where your errors are, let me just point out a few on the above small sample of your writing.

i think its in english

"i think its in english" should read "I think it's in English."

"nways thxn for xl hepl i never had even a tiny miny idea that you can draw a whole pnid on xl n one again thxn for such SPECIFIC AND DETAILED reply"

I'm sorry, but I can't even begin to attempt a translation of this into English. This is a serious and professional forum where you will find knowledgable and experienced engineers willing to offer sincere users what is often valuable advise. The price is low, but the effort is not. Please don't waste the readers' time with unintelligible and incoherent entries that violate spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization, and other writing rules to the point that your readers spend more time trying to understand what you are saying than in trying to formulate a response.

[04_che_uet]

@djack77494......... I will try my best to take care of these things from now on.

[Technocrat]

Dear Administrator,

Can you please delete this post from the forum? Please do not tolerate such language in this forum. There should be strict criteria for registering in Student's Forum.

Regards.

[ELEMAN]

Hello everybody:

I am absolutely agree with the ideas of djack77494, joerd and Zauberberg. Art, thanks for that lesson. I support the suggestion of Dhirajkumar.

[TechExpert]

Well said by the members, I agree with djack, joerd, Zauberberg

PKS