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[processengbd]

My company is considering to arrange training on Aspen HYSYS in INDIA for some chemical engineers. Do you have any suggestion.

 

Processengbd

[thorium90]

Well, go for it! Its good that your company invests in its employees. Its really good knowledge whichever level they decide to train you to.

[Bobby Strain]

It depends on what your needs are. There is a lot of information available from Aspen Tech for free.

 

Bobby

[Dedi]

i think it's a good consideration. because free information in world web sometimes doesn't have any explanation. but apparently thanks to this forum(cheresources.com) because sometimes i could find the answer in this forum 

[processengbd]

Thanks everyone.

@ thorium90

Yes it is good that they are ready to invest in such young engineer like me.

 

@ Bobby Strain

That is what I was thinking whether they teach extensively like form chemical engineering view pint or just shows just how can i add equipment to PFDs. I thing HYSYS is not just like autocad or photoshop where you need little engineering knowledge. But for HYSYS you have to have all the chemical engineering background knowledge to fully utilize it. Free content does shows things. But it does not entails underlying principals. So my question was do aspentch training contains these things that I want.

 

@Dedi

I totally agree with you. This forum helped me a lot.

Edited by processengbd, 21 April 2013 - 11:14 PM.

[thorium90]

There are basic courses and advanced courses offered by their training center. Eg: http://support.aspen...74&id2=&id3=all

 

One good reason for attending the classroom training versus the online self help is that you get to ask questions and get replies from experts in the software there and then. I think that itself is a very enticing perk.

[Dedi]

from your opinion i think you should participate in advanced course class than basic. because in advanced one you will be taught from chemical engineering point of view whether why you should add or not an equipment in plant processing. hope this helpful 
 

btw, i want to participate in advanced course too but i'm just graduated from my college and still an unemployment man   . hope to find a company like yours Mr processengbd 

Edited by Dedi, 22 April 2013 - 11:07 PM.

[thorium90]

I dont think it is advanced as in more engineering point of view. It is advanced as in taught to someone who already knows how to use the program to do simple stuff like add unit modules and simulate basic flowsheets. Advanced would likely be how to use more features of the program or customize it to more specific or to larger and more complicated flowsheets

[processengbd]

Thanks everyone for your comment.

 

I totally agree with thorium90 though Aspentech named it as Advanced Hysys but if you see the course content then you can realize tat it is a kind of lame.

 

@ Dedi

Hope that you will find a much better company.

[Dedi]

mr thorium90 so you mean advanced course is like basic course like the tutorial we can found in world web?

@processengbd amien   , i hope you find the suitable course for your company 

[thorium90]

I think it would depend on how much you already know about using aspen products. They have many different products in the aspen family. Also, most people use the default options for very simply and basic simulations. Advanced courses will teach you what all the other options do and how and when to use them. The manuals that come with the software don't tell you every little bit about the software. One would need to either attend the courses to learn about it or from trial and error while using it.

[processengbd]

Thanks thorium90 i have used basically two Aspen products one is Aspen HYSYS another Aspen Exchanger Design & Rating EDR. I must say aspentech help file is quite ok to me. But it does not contain all the underneath calculation it does on the background. So I don’t feel that confident.
I want to asses my skill on aspen plus. I guess you guys can help me out. I know it is hard to asses ones skills basically with just only on description.  But let me tell you I try to use my chemical engineering
 
I have done three full plant simulations on HYSYS
 
1. Condensate Fractionation Plant
 
2. Natural Gas Dehydration Plant
 
3. H2o2 Plant.
 
I think you all know the basic unit operations used in this plant. Though these are simple unit operation. I have done equipment sizing of natural gas dehydration plant based on my simulation. Besides i have used adjust and sets in one of my projects. I have used two or three utilities in HYSYS. Like pipe sizing utility, Depressurizing utility (Blow down), Hydrate formation utility, boiling point curve utility.
 
I have used oil manager to characterize condensate and used it to simulate condensate fractionation plant. i have used hypothetical component.
 
Now I am studding Fluidized Catalytic Cracking. I am basically studding the following book
Chang, Ai-Fu / Pashikanti, Kiran / Liu, Y.A.
Refinery Engineering
Integrated Process Modeling and Optimization
 
http://www.wiley-vch...8-3-527-33357-8
 
So what is your suggestion should I do Basic course or Advanced course.

Thanks Everyone for your cooperation.

Edited by processengbd, 02 May 2013 - 05:40 AM.

[thorium90]

Well, the advanced course costs more than the basic course and your company is paying. I would definitely choose advanced...

[processengbd]

Sorry thorium90 but i don't know why advanced one actually cost less according to aspentech website.

 

http://support.aspen...p?course=EHY101

http://support.aspen...p?course=EHY202

[thorium90]

Well, in that case, can you already do those stuff in the basic course? If so, then there is more benefit to learn something new.

[pavanayi]

EHY101 is a 3 day course (3x$600 or 3x£400)

EHY 202 is a 2 day course (2x$600 or 2x£400)

 

Hence the difference in cost.

 

In the link, there is also a course description, which gives an idea of what it covers.

Read through and you will understand which one you need to attend.

[Kabilan]

Hi, how can Hysis steady state be used to give details about safety issues of a process? Also are there any other tools in Hysis to assess safety aspects of a process?

Thank You

[processengbd]

Dear Kabilan you have to first understand that HYSYS is not a magic box. Process Safety is a serious issue. It has been hounded of years, Process engineer & Safety Engineers has been and still working on plant design and operational safety. So please whatever you  want to analyze talk to the expert.

 

As far as I know HYSYS does not have any module regarding safety issues.

 

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