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[chinbas]

I need some suggestion.

Edited by chinbas, 18 May 2014 - 04:13 AM.

[Bobby Strain]

Your company can always engage the services of a consultant to help you. Then the company only pays when help is required. Many people would help either on a project basis or hourly. Anything that you need to do can be done remotely by your consultant.

 

Bobby

[chinbas]

Thanks Mr Strain. But the thing is that my management is sometime very reluctant in these sections.

 

My worry is will i be capable enough in two years to get employment in one of the actual process engineering company? Though above all these things depends on my competence.

 

Regards

[PingPong]

I am not sure I understand what you want.

 

If you have a master or bachelor or similar degree in chemical engineering, then you can always send an application to one of the engineering companies that do process design. Those firms not only hire experienced engineers but also engineers without experience, provided that their points are above average.

 

If you fear that you are not above average: engineering companies also need engineers for detailed design/engineering, for which you should be qualified enough to start as a junior engineer. Once you work in such firm you can further educate yourself by any means available, as well as self-education using any relevant book that you can buy yourself.

 

It all depends on your enthousiasm (in the job interview) and initiative (further self-education after being hired) what your future will be.

Edited by PingPong, 10 October 2013 - 07:05 AM.

[NAP]

 

Now the fact is in my country there is absolutely no scope for a process engineer who design. So at first i consoled myself thinking that it is the best possible offer that i can get in my country.

 

 

Change your country, seriously...go out to a country with good concentration of oil & gas companies (abu dhabi, muscat, kualalampur, singapore etc etc)

 

If you are single and young (hell, even if you are married), and if you want good experience and good money with it, you should have no boundaries

[Propacket]

chinbas

 

My story is just like yours. i would like to share my thoughts with you.

 

I started my career as proposal/procurement engineer in a newly established small company. The company's goal was to provide engineering/procurement services for oil & gas sector. We got many multinational clients but with the requirement that we should also do complete process engineering. Our CEO chose me ( i dont now why me) to enhance company's process engineering capabilities. I was alone, 6 months experienced, without any senior process engineer and even without any helpful softwares. I worked hard day and night, stayed late in office studying relevant literature and even came to office on weekends. The most helpful literature for me was some FEED Studies performed by reputed oil & gas companies which we have got on some projects. Cheresouces Forums also helped me a lot. 

 

It was a long struggle but result was that after five years, our company was renowned for its process engineering capabilities and i was leading a team of process engineers. Now our systems had become loaded with excel spreadsheets (which i prepared in five years), many other softwares and of course Hysys. We won some projects for our clients just for sound process design. If i mention names of those companies for which we were working, you wont believe that a team led by a 5 years experienced process engineer can do so. Those companies have got many senior process engineers which critically looked at our work but  they could find just one thing......praise for us. Its all hard work my friend. Nothing special. Just hard work and have faith in you. God helps you.              

[chinbas]

 

 

Now the fact is in my country there is absolutely no scope for a process engineer who design. So at first i consoled myself thinking that it is the best possible offer that i can get in my country.

 

 

Change your country, seriously...go out to a country with good concentration of oil & gas companies (abu dhabi, muscat, kualalampur, singapore etc etc)

 

If you are single and young (hell, even if you are married), and if you want good experience and good money with it, you should have no boundaries

 

Yes i am and will be considering going abroad (Singapore/ Malaysia) when ever i can but i have serious problem in my family. My mother is sick. And  I am not married. But the thing is will I get employment? So i just want to get some experience first. Then the question comes will this experience get valued?

 

I very much will appreciate your advice. Thank you NAP

[chinbas]

chinbas

 

My story is just like yours. i would like to share my thoughts with you.

 

I started my career as proposal/procurement engineer in a newly established small company. The company's goal was to provide engineering/procurement services for oil & gas sector. We got many multinational clients but with the requirement that we should also do complete process engineering. Our CEO chose me ( i dont now why me) to enhance company's process engineering capabilities. I was alone, 6 months experienced, without any senior process engineer and even without any helpful softwares. I worked hard day and night, stayed late in office studying relevant literature and even came to office on weekends. The most helpful literature for me was some FEED Studies performed by reputed oil & gas companies which we have got on some projects. Cheresouces Forums also helped me a lot. 

 

It was a long struggle but result was that after five years, our company was renowned for its process engineering capabilities and i was leading a team of process engineers. Now our systems had become loaded with excel spreadsheets (which i prepared in five years), many other softwares and of course Hysys. We won some projects for our clients just for sound process design. If i mention names of those companies for which we were working, you wont believe that a team led by a 5 years experienced process engineer can do so. Those companies have got many senior process engineers which critically looked at our work but  they could find just one thing......praise for us. Its all hard work my friend. Nothing special. Just hard work and have faith in you. God helps you.              

Yes i very much want to see my company prosper but sometime i feel very bad when they want me to build a plant out of nothing only P&ID. Without letting me communicate with equipment vendors & without letting me check the vendor document. Without letting me know the price of the equipment. I feel sometime frightened if something goes terribly wrong and i end up in jail.

 

It was good to hear your story. Thank you

[chinbas]

Dear fellow Engineers I am thinking about doing some safety course like NEBOSH ITC oil & gas. Though it will be the last thing that i will be in safety profession. But just to make sure that i don't be in some dire situation.

 

Regards

[cea]

I seek advice from my fellow seniors regarding my career.

 

I graduated in chemical engineering in 2012. After graduation i got chance in an emerging EPC company. Which has limited process engineering experience. Previously it used to do only regulation and metering station. For last five years it made partnership with a modest engineering company and started building process plant.

 

Now it has the experience of building

 

1.  Condensate fractionation plant.  (I was present during commissioning phase)

2. TEG Dehydration plant (I was present operation & maintenance)

3. TEG Dehydration plant (I did the basic design details was checked by other pertness. )

4. Sillica gel Gas dehydration plant (Design on going)

 

Now the fact is in my country there is absolutely no scope for a process engineer who design. So at first i consoled myself thinking that it is the best possible offer that i can get in my country.

 

I am saying that because company dont have any senior process engineer. They are reluctant to employ them cos they are expensive. That is putting much strain on me and my college. By boss has so called Phd in petroleum engineering but is knowledge in process engineering is somewhat questionable. They sometime push for things which an inexperienced process engineers is incapable of doing (detail engineering).

 

Though there is some positive side also recently company has bought hysys that has given me some breathing space at least to some extent.

 

The thing is yes I am learning but without proper guidance and mentors.

 

 

NB: In the forum someone one said that "When you want to be a design engineer you should be ready to take some risk".

 

Previously i got chance in a prestigious FMCG with high paying salary. I sacrificed it because i wanted to do the design work.

 

Now i am having some experience in

 

Heat & Material balance, Separator design (two & three phase), Absorption (Teg contactor), Distillation (CDU), Adsorption (Sillica gel), Heat Exchanger design (EDR & HTRI), Control valve sizing, PSV sizing, pipe sizing, HAZOP Study, Process Control (ABB, Alebradley, Siemens) (Collaboration with E&I), Pipe & Vessel Stress Analysis (Compress & Bentley Autopipe) (Collaboration with Mechanical Eng), Development of P&ID & PFD,

 

My study materials include GPSA, API, TEMA, ASME books from my undergrad studies

 

Though i am learning but it is without training and without any help from senior.

 

I seek some advice from some fellow senior.

 

My special gratitude goes to this forum for give me space to tell my story. And for sharing their valuable knowledge.

There are many replies to your post & the extract is, firstly that there is no substitute for hard work and secondly have patiance.

 

Let me tell you my openion.

 

Do not try to grab entire knowledge in one go. The knowledge that you cannot grasp, is a waste. It remain as information only. So, check whether you feel content at end of every day. The moment you find, there is no crises / no fight in your profession, understand that you are in comfort zone & stopped your learning process.

 

Remember that if you are getting grilled, you are getting groomed. You should be happy & thankful to your destiny, that you are getting groomed from day one. Otherwise, there are many engineers get good jobs in big MNCs, good salaries but stay with limited knowledge & routine work. It is not their loyality but unability to move ahead.

 

In my openion, join a small company at junior level, get maximum opportunities to work & then jumover to big MNCs to take your knowledge to next level.

 

 

Ultimately, the choice is yours.

[chinbas]

Thank you very much for your advice.