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#1 hardiskuae

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 10:48 PM

Hi...

I need help. I don't know how to read P & Id?

Can you help me in that?

any technique that would help me to understand any P & Ids??

#2 sgkim

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 04:59 AM

Hi, hardiskuae,
You can refer to the "Legends & Symbols for P&ID" everytime you encounter queer symbol, number, drawing, or something. Probably 95% of your quiz can be solved. But the rest 5%....you'd better consult your senior engineer.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 10:14 AM

If you don't have a legend sheet, google for ISA PID symbols - and hope that your P&ID adheres to the ISA standard.
One of the things I found is http://www.pip.org/d.../Sample-PID.pdf which is really nice except for the big watermark.

#4 hardiskuae

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 09:38 PM

Thank you guys for the help...

It is really appreciat it....

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 03:02 AM

Could anyone advise on the general rules of thumbs for drawing a P&ID? Our teacher is going to give us a P&ID with many missing components and ask us to fill it in the software. We have to then know where to add in a pump, a valve, etc. I am also not that good with controllers, control loops / signal loops. COuld anyone help me with some advice? Thanks a lot.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 03:39 AM

QUOTE (Jamie @ Apr 3 2006, 03:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could anyone advise on the general rules of thumbs for drawing a P&ID? Our teacher is going to give us a P&ID with many missing components and ask us to fill it in the software. We have to then know where to add in a pump, a valve, etc. I am also not that good with controllers, control loops / signal loops. COuld anyone help me with some advice? Thanks a lot.



I think it is better first to know the function for each part for example: pump is used to pump liquids, so you will find the pump in the bottom of the towers and separators. try to use this technique and will feel better. I am sure other friends in the form will recomend you with other solutions.

bye for now and have a nice day......

#7 joerd

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:15 AM

One of the things you might do is to find a number of examples, look over the drawings, and see if you can understand the function of the different components. Your teacher (if he/she is good) probably has given you a number of clues already.

#8 THCooke

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:07 AM

P&IDs are an area that I like to say is where the "gray" of engineering becomes "black and white". Usually there is no wrong place to put a component, yet there is almost always another place that may be more optimal. I think this is where a lot of process engineers struggle...making decisions as to where components go. Have confidence is my best advice. If you can explain why you put the pump (in this case) where you did, then there is no reason to fret. Placing valves and control loops is much of the same, albeit a bit more tricky to get optimized. My advice here is, don't fret too much...as you get out of school and into your career you will have plenty of help until you become quite comfortable with how you assemble a P&ID (and perhaps valve, pumps and control locations within the actual layout as well). Last bit of advice, to make everything "black and white" there can be NO detail left out of the picture...think of everything...startup, maintenance, operations, emergency operations, water hammer, vacuum relief, filling / air purging, and there are many others.

Best of luck!

#9 denizen360

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 03:34 AM

A piping and instrumentation diagram/drawing (P&ID) is a diagram in the process industry which shows the piping of the process flow together with the installed equipment and instrumentation.
A piping and instrumentation diagram/drawing (P&ID) is defined by the Institute of Instrumentation and Control as follows:

  • A diagram which shows the interconnection of process equipment and the instrumentation used to control the process. In the process industry, a standard set of symbols is used to prepare drawings of processes. The instrument symbols used in these drawings are generally based on International Society of Automation (ISA) Standard S5. 1.
  • The primary schematic drawing used for laying out a process control installation.
Standard p&id symbols and example of p&id


#10 tojo360

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 04:19 AM

A piping and instrumentation diagram/drawing (P&ID) is a diagram in the process industry which shows the piping of the process flow together with the installed equipment and instrumentation.
A piping and instrumentation diagram/drawing (P&ID) is defined by the Institute of Instrumentation and Control as follows:

  • A diagram which shows the interconnection of process equipment and the instrumentation used to control the process. In the process industry, a standard set of symbols is used to prepare drawings of processes. The instrument symbols used in these drawings are generally based on International Society of Automation (ISA) Standard S5. 1.
  • The primary schematic drawing used for laying out a process control installation.
Standard p&id symbols and example of p&id


I checked the link ...but they updated it now... comparing to the old one new one is very good...
how to interpret P&id drawings?




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