
Real Gases Enthalpy As A Function Of Pressure
#1
Posted 21 January 2020  10:09 AM
My purpose is to understand how programs such as ASPEN calculate the thermodynamic properties, i would like to develop my own excel sheets and share them after learning how to do this.
#2
Posted 21 January 2020  11:45 AM Best Answer
A few concepts that are important to this endeavor.
1) Even if you find derivations all done, understanding where many of these equations comes from begins by recalling the section of your physical chemistry and/or intro to thermodynamics courses that covered Maxwell's relations and how to use various properties of partial derivatives to build the partial differential equations at the heart of of most thermodynamic calculations. If you have kept your Pchem and/or thermo texts and notes, go back and review the sections dealing with Maxwell's relations (wikipedia's page: https://en.wikipedia...xwell_relations).
2) We often find it easier to measure and compute how far a property "departs" from an easily computed "ideal" or "standard" state. We then use these departure functions to compute the desired property (Wikipedia's page for departure functions  including some equations fro the PengRobinson equation of state: https://en.wikipedia...arture_function).
That should give you a good start.
#3
Posted 21 January 2020  11:28 PM
Hi,
You may find some interest reading the document I prepared a few years ago .
Hope this is helping you.
Good luck
Breizh
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#4
Posted 22 January 2020  07:30 AM
A few concepts that are important to this endeavor.
1) Even if you find derivations all done, understanding where many of these equations comes from begins by recalling the section of your physical chemistry and/or intro to thermodynamics courses that covered Maxwell's relations and how to use various properties of partial derivatives to build the partial differential equations at the heart of of most thermodynamic calculations. If you have kept your Pchem and/or thermo texts and notes, go back and review the sections dealing with Maxwell's relations (wikipedia's page: https://en.wikipedia...xwell_relations).
2) We often find it easier to measure and compute how far a property "departs" from an easily computed "ideal" or "standard" state. We then use these departure functions to compute the desired property (Wikipedia's page for departure functions  including some equations fro the PengRobinson equation of state: https://en.wikipedia...arture_function).
That should give you a good start.
Thank you so much, I've used the equation and got results with about +90% accuracy compared to steam tables. Now I'll try derive it from first principal to full understand it.
Best wishes
Edited by Qasem215, 22 January 2020  07:31 AM.
#5
Posted 22 January 2020  07:32 AM
Hi,
You may find some interest reading the document I prepared a few years ago .
Hope this is helping you.
Good luck
Breizh
Will read it soon, thank you so much for your reply.
Best
#6
Posted 12 June 2020  07:07 AM
A few concepts that are important to this endeavor.
1) Even if you find derivations all done, understanding where many of these equations comes from begins by recalling the section of your physical chemistry and/or intro to thermodynamics courses that covered Maxwell's relations and how to use various properties of partial derivatives to build the partial differential equations at the heart of of most thermodynamic calculations. If you have kept your Pchem and/or thermo texts and notes, go back and review the sections dealing with Maxwell's relations (wikipedia's page: https://en.wikipedia...xwell_relations).
2) We often find it easier to measure and compute how far a property "departs" from an easily computed "ideal" or "standard" state. We then use these departure functions to compute the desired property (Wikipedia's page for departure functions  including some equations fro the PengRobinson equation of state: https://en.wikipedia...arture_function).
That should give you a good start.
Thank you so much, I've used the equation and got results with about +90% accuracy compared to steam tables. Now I'll try derive it from first principal to full understand it.
Best wishes
I've created a spreadsheet based on the PR EOS and I would like to add the data in the file you've attached, briezh, if you wouldn't mind and i'll upload it here (after making it look a bit more neat) for everyone's knowledge.
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