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Posted 26 November 2008 - 12:34 AM

I am currently doing some calcs for nitrogen blanketing on a hydrocarbon tank. The MAWP is atm and breather valve setting is at 0.4" W.C. (low) and 4.0" W.C. (high). I have chosen the blanketing pressure to be 2" W.C. Is this acceptable considering that the MAWP is atm?

Also, the rate at which the hydrocarbon leaves the tank is about 80 l/day. Can I take the equivalent amount of nitrogen needed to maintain the pressure as 80 l/day?

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 10:55 AM


These are two subjects that have been discussed and defined in this Forum in past threads. This is basic and important subject matter and should be well understood when applying storage tank protection in the form of nitrogen blanketing and pressure/vacuum relief. I don't want to keep repeating the same material over again, but I can try to help you with the following comments:

You should have full and total physical identification of the storage tank you are dealing with. This means that you should know the present physical condition of the tank in quantifiable information. This means that you should have the design calculations and the fabrication drawings followed up with actual field data on the actual existing plate thickness and weld conditions of the tank. This is a horse-sense, practical matter. As an engineer, you must practice what you represent: common sense tells you that you must know (or be able to identify) the consequences of imposing a pre-determined pressure on a vessel. This is particularly important when dealing with hydrocarbon fluids. I realize that this is probably a problem for you. Just as I have been confronted in the past, you also probably have been given a "questionable" tank to fill and to blanket. You probably have scarce (or NO calculations) engineering information on this vessel, other than it is an "atmospheric" tank. THAT is just so much BULL! There is no such thing as an atmospheric MAWP (Maximum Allowable Working Pressure).

Every tank that has ever been built has a positive MAWP (a pressure over atmospheric). The mere fact that it has to sustain its own weight and withstand SOME wind and fluid inventory tells us that the steel plates employed will safely contain SOME internal, maximum pressure. Now, the problem is: WHAT IS THAT SAFE, MAWP? You have to find that out. Otherwise, you have no safe basis of design or on what to base your engineering decisions regarding the pressure you can impose on this tank. In the past, tank owners have dealt with the subject of tank specifications and engineering calculations with impunity, preferring to simply buy whatever tank was available, cheap, and quickly installed – and later forgetting all about it. OSHA, EPA, and recent safety regulations have now made this a priority and important item – as it should have been in the very beginning. Accountability for design and fabrication of process equipment is demanded and it all begins with engineers such as YOU and I.

The first order of business, in my opinion, is to identify if your tank is operable – from a safety, process, and fabrication point of view. To do that, you must obtain a credible MAWP. The way to do that is to have an experienced mechanical engineer rate the tank by running thickness, steel, and fabrication verifications on the actual tank followed up by calculations to determine the MAWP. A hydro test should also be included if the tank doesn't have the documentation (as I suspect it doesn't).

I don't believe you can credibly measure 0.4 inches of water column with a conventional pressure instrument. What you need is as much MAWP (and MAWV – for vacuum identification) in order to have an operable pressure working range (a "dead band") to set instrumentation controlling the nitrogen blanket, the vacuum break, and the pressure relief on the tank. Otherwise, you won't be able to control all these required functions. I have worked with a pressure range setting of 4" to 12" of water column. Other engineers prefer to go even higher – and I don't blame them. However, you have to study your application and see what works best for you from a safety and economical operational point of view.

Your make-up nitrogen demand has to be of concern to you because it is a cost factor. The more inventory you move through your tank, the more the tank level will vary. Every time the tank level is varied in a blanketed tank, the amount of make-up nitrogen increases because the emptying and re-filling causes a required venting of excess nitrogen pressure and a subsequent need for make-up when you pump out the tank. By counting or averaging the amount of times you pump out the tank you can calculate the amount of nitrogen make-up required to refill the tank with inert gas.

Search through this Forum and you will find a lot of information and discussion on these two subjects. This is important stuff. If you give us more, detailed specific information we may be able to address each specific topic or question in detail.

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 04:09 PM

I'll briefly add to Art's thorough commentary.

Please review API2000 for more information on the volumetric requirements for venting (blanketing). You need to consider whether you need additional amounts for thermal considerations.

Blanketing at very low pressures can lead to excursions into the vacuum range due to PRV droop and other issues. You must consider the total operating band for each pressure controlling device on the vessel. My general comment would be that anything less than 4 in.wc could be problematic.

This issue of "atmospheric tanks" comes up often and Art has "attacked" it well. I'll just add that if you have to call it atmospheric, and can't rate it then how can you even consider it to be able to be subjected to P or V? Art's qualifying comments are quite correct.

There is some information on my website if you wish to look there also.

Anyway, to all on the forum have a happy Thanksgiving and to you outside of the US, we will be off Thursday, enjoying a day with food and family.

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