Jump to content



Featured Articles

Check out the latest featured articles.

File Library

Check out the latest downloads available in the File Library.

New Article

Product Viscosity vs. Shear

Featured File

Vertical Tank Selection

New Blog Entry

Low Flow in Pipes- posted in Ankur's blog

- - - - -

Heat Loss Calculation


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
6 replies to this topic
Share this topic:
| More

#1 WEEWA

WEEWA

    Brand New Member

  • Members
  • 4 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:06 AM

DEAR MY FRIEND
I NEED PROBLEM FOR HELP. MY PLANT TRIED TO MANAGE ENERGY CONSERVATION. AND I WANT TO CALCULATE HEAT LOSS AT FLANGE ,MANHOLE , VALVE , NOT HAVE INSULATION CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT FORMULA TO CALCULATION HEAT LOSS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

#2 Qalander (Chem)

Qalander (Chem)

    Gold Member

  • ChE Plus Subscriber
  • 829 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (WEEWA @ Jan 23 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DEAR MY FRIEND
I NEED PROBLEM FOR HELP. MY PLANT TRIED TO MANAGE ENERGY CONSERVATION. AND I WANT TO CALCULATE HEAT LOSS AT FLANGE ,MANHOLE , VALVE , NOT HAVE INSULATION CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT FORMULA TO CALCULATION HEAT LOSS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH


Dear WEEWA Hello/ Good Morning,
Firstly avoid shouting at everyone else(stop use of Block Capitals)&clarify your background!
General heat transfer formula is Q=UXAXTemperature difference

"Q" is the Heat transfered,
"U" is the Heat transfer Coefficient for particular material invoved,
"A" is area available for(exposed to) heat transfer
"Temperature difference" between Inner(hotter) surface & 'Prevalent ambient(colder) temperatures'

Hope this helps
Qalander

#3 ankur2061

ankur2061

    Gold Member

  • Forum Moderator
  • 2,484 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 05:35 AM

QUOTE (Qalander (Chem) @ Jan 23 2009, 02:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (WEEWA @ Jan 23 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DEAR MY FRIEND
I NEED PROBLEM FOR HELP. MY PLANT TRIED TO MANAGE ENERGY CONSERVATION. AND I WANT TO CALCULATE HEAT LOSS AT FLANGE ,MANHOLE , VALVE , NOT HAVE INSULATION CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT FORMULA TO CALCULATION HEAT LOSS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH


Dear WEEWA Hello/ Good Morning,
Firstly avoid shouting at everyone else(stop use of Block Capitals)&clarify your background!
General heat transfer formula is Q=UXAXTemperature difference

"Q" is the Heat transfered,
"U" is the Heat transfer Coefficient for particular material invoved,
"A" is area available for(exposed to) heat transfer
"Temperature difference" between Inner(hotter) surface & 'Prevalent ambient(colder) temperatures'

Hope this helps
Qalander


Dear Qalander,

What you have mentioned is the general equation for heat transfer from heat exchange equipment. The person is asking for heat loss from piping systems, and that is where what you have mentioned does not apply.

Weeva:

Look at the following threads for heat loss from piping systems and equipment which gives equations for calculating heat loss:

http://www.cheresour...amp;qpid=25482#

http://www.cheresour...art=#entry20822

The basic issue in my opinion is whether the exercise is worth doing since in any piping/equipment heating system involving some heat transfer fluid (jacketed piping or equipment), the flanged connections including valves are normally kept uninsulated for the sole purpose of detecting leaks of the heating medium, since the flanges, bonnets and gland packings are potential leak points and need to be detected immediately in case of a leak. Naturally, if these are covered with insulation it will be very difficult to detect any leakage.

Be assured, that these uninsulated portions constitute a very small percentage of the total system surface area to be heated and any heat loss through the same can be practically neglected. However, if you still feel that this exercise needs to be done you can calculate the heat loss as per the method outlined in the above mentioned threads.

Happy calculating.

Regards,
Ankur.

#4 Qalander (Chem)

Qalander (Chem)

    Gold Member

  • ChE Plus Subscriber
  • 829 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:05 AM

QUOTE (Qalander (Chem) @ Jan 23 2009, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (WEEWA @ Jan 23 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DEAR MY FRIEND
I NEED PROBLEM FOR HELP. MY PLANT TRIED TO MANAGE ENERGY CONSERVATION. AND I WANT TO CALCULATE HEAT LOSS AT FLANGE ,MANHOLE , VALVE , NOT HAVE INSULATION CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT FORMULA TO CALCULATION HEAT LOSS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH


Dear WEEWA Hello/ Good Morning,
Firstly avoid shouting at everyone else(stop use of Block Capitals)&clarify your background!
General heat transfer formula is Q=UXAXTemperature difference

"Q" is the Heat transfered,
"U" is the Heat transfer Coefficient for particular material invoved,
"A" is area available for(exposed to) heat transfer
"Temperature difference" between Inner(hotter) surface & 'Prevalent ambient(colder) temperatures'

Hope this helps
Qalander



#5 ankur2061

ankur2061

    Gold Member

  • Forum Moderator
  • 2,484 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:23 AM

Dear Qalander,

You wanted to say something and seem to have forgotten.

Can I help you in any way.

Regards,
Ankur.


#6 Zauberberg

Zauberberg

    Gold Member

  • ChE Plus Subscriber
  • 2,727 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:41 AM

Weewa,

You can download one quite handy tool (3E Plus) and check the performance/heat losses of insulated and non-insulated systems:

http://www.pipeinsul...4/download.html

Just register yourself and download the package. It's a product of North American Insulation Manufacturers Association (NAIMA), and it is absolutely free of charge. Very user friendly, and with an option to expand the existing database with user-provided data.

#7 Qalander (Chem)

Qalander (Chem)

    Gold Member

  • ChE Plus Subscriber
  • 829 posts

Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (Zauberberg @ Jan 23 2009, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Weewa,

You can download one quite handy tool (3E Plus) and check the performance/heat losses of insulated and non-insulated systems:

http://www.pipeinsul...4/download.html

Just register yourself and download the package. It's a product of North American Insulation Manufacturers Association (NAIMA), and it is absolutely free of charge. Very user friendly, and with an option to expand the existing database with user-provided data.


Dear Friend Zauberberg, Thanks Very much indeed! for sharing useful info.
Best regards
Qalander




Similar Topics