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#1 poojabathula369@gmail.com

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Posted 24 April 2024 - 03:15 PM

Few Basic Engineering deliverables are:
Basis of Design
Process Design Criteria
Process Flow Diagrams (PFDs)
Process Description
Process Simulation
Heat and Material Balance
Piping & Instrument Diagrams (P & IDs)
Line List
Tie-in List
Equipment List
Equipment Process Datasheets
Instrument Datasheets
Operating, Control & Safeguarding Philosophy
Line Sizing & Hydraulic Report
Equipment Sizing Report
Material Selection Report
Utility Requirements
Chemical
Relief Valve Sizing and Dossier
Flare System and depressurization study
Shutdown Key
HAZID Review & HAZID Report
HAZOP / SIL Studies Participation
 
Few Detailed Engineering Deliverables include:
Design Basis 
Process Flow Diagram (PFD)
Heat & Mass Balance
Piping & Instrument Diagrams (P&IDs) 
Line List
Equipment List 
Final Line Sizing and Hydraulic Report
Operating, Control and Safeguarding Philosophy
Commissioning Procedure & Plan
Plant Operating Manual
 
My question is, basic engineering and detailed engineering have similar deliverables? Then what is the difference between those deliverables? What are the differences? What updates do we make to the deliverables in detailed engineering? Please explain in detail.


#2 Pilesar

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Posted 24 April 2024 - 05:24 PM

Detailed engineering is more detailed. Before detailed engineering, you might know the vessel size and the number of nozzles. Afterwards, you will know the location of each nozzle on the vessel and which direction it points. Before you might know the approximate line lengths and line sizes. Afterwards you will know the exact lengths of each pipe section and where the elbows are located. Filling in the details can lead to discovery of small changes needed to fit everything together for best operation and maintenance. Basic engineering is good enough for a reasonable cost estimate but not good enough to send construction crews to the field.



#3 fallah

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Posted 24 April 2024 - 06:34 PM

 

Few Basic Engineering deliverables are:
Basis of Design
Process Design Criteria
Process Flow Diagrams (PFDs)
Process Description
Process Simulation
Heat and Material Balance
Piping & Instrument Diagrams (P & IDs)
Line List
Tie-in List
Equipment List
Equipment Process Datasheets
Instrument Datasheets
Operating, Control & Safeguarding Philosophy
Line Sizing & Hydraulic Report
Equipment Sizing Report
Material Selection Report
Utility Requirements
Chemical
Relief Valve Sizing and Dossier
Flare System and depressurization study
Shutdown Key
HAZID Review & HAZID Report
HAZOP / SIL Studies Participation
 
Few Detailed Engineering Deliverables include:
Design Basis 
Process Flow Diagram (PFD)
Heat & Mass Balance
Piping & Instrument Diagrams (P&IDs) 
Line List
Equipment List 
Final Line Sizing and Hydraulic Report
Operating, Control and Safeguarding Philosophy
Commissioning Procedure & Plan
Plant Operating Manual
 
My question is, basic engineering and detailed engineering have similar deliverables? Then what is the difference between those deliverables? What are the differences? What updates do we make to the deliverables in detailed engineering? Please explain in detail.

 

 

Hi,

 

Please try to prepare a complete master document list of a project and you will see the differences you will want to know after reading...



#4 breizh

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Posted 24 April 2024 - 06:45 PM

Hi,

To support your work, take a look at this link:

Library (red-bag.com)

 

Get contact with someone knowledgeable in your organization, the best way to learn from experienced people.

 

Good luck

Breizh



#5 shvet1

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Posted 24 April 2024 - 11:42 PM

 

Then what is the difference between those deliverables? What are the differences?

 

 

The difference is Final Investment Decision (FID). BD is provided for Feasibility Study and/or Front-End Engineering Design before FID is made. DD is provided to execute the Investment Plan as a result of FID.



#6 latexman

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Posted 25 April 2024 - 06:13 AM

At the end of Basic Engineering, the capital estimate is believed to be about +/- 25% accuracy.

 

At the end of Detailed Engineering, the capital estimate is believed to be about +/- 10% accuracy.

 

Operating cost estimates undergo improved accuracy also going from Basic to Detailed Engineering.

 

Making a good business decision requires accurate capital and operating cost estimates.  



#7 breizh

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Posted 25 April 2024 - 06:52 AM

Hi,
Under project engineering you will find some relevant/general information about project
Sugar Engineers (sugartech.co.za)
Good luck
Breizh




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