Dear all
I have a question: Must the line route between transferring pump(s) and burn pit have any specific conditions such as HPT(high point) , slope,....? and why?
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Line Route To Burn Pit
Started by fallah, Feb 02 2008 07:34 AM
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#1
Posted 02 February 2008 - 07:34 AM
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Posted 03 February 2008 - 10:37 PM
My two cents worth....
It depends,
A high point in a liquid line is normally avoidable as it can cause a vapor lock. Sometimes, you want to break a liquid column, to prevent gravity flow emptying out the upstream vessel.
I would think that in your case as the pumps and the burn pit would be at grade, and the line would be routed over a pipe rack. So, avoiding a high point would be very difficult. And it should not be a worry, as the liquid column would overcome any vapor lock when the pump starts.
A common use of slope is for draining liquids in a vapor line, whcih should not be applicable in your case.
Does this help?
Rajiv
It depends,
A high point in a liquid line is normally avoidable as it can cause a vapor lock. Sometimes, you want to break a liquid column, to prevent gravity flow emptying out the upstream vessel.
I would think that in your case as the pumps and the burn pit would be at grade, and the line would be routed over a pipe rack. So, avoiding a high point would be very difficult. And it should not be a worry, as the liquid column would overcome any vapor lock when the pump starts.
A common use of slope is for draining liquids in a vapor line, whcih should not be applicable in your case.
Does this help?
Rajiv
#3
Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:22 AM
Dear Rajiv
Thanks a lot for your reply, but i am faced with min. two cases that the line toward Burn Pit has high point other than which due to routed over pipe rack,and i dont know its reason.Any help ?
Regards
Thanks a lot for your reply, but i am faced with min. two cases that the line toward Burn Pit has high point other than which due to routed over pipe rack,and i dont know its reason.Any help ?
Regards
#4
Posted 04 February 2008 - 10:32 PM
Is one near the pump and the other near the burn pit?
My guess is that these are provided to avoid draining down the liquid either way; or to isolate the liquid in the pipe.
Do you have a sketch or something we can visualise? It is very difficult to look for a plausible cause for this design else.
My e-mail is rxnarang@gmail.com. Please feel free to write to me if you have anything interesting.
Regards
Rajiv
My guess is that these are provided to avoid draining down the liquid either way; or to isolate the liquid in the pipe.
Do you have a sketch or something we can visualise? It is very difficult to look for a plausible cause for this design else.
My e-mail is rxnarang@gmail.com. Please feel free to write to me if you have anything interesting.
Regards
Rajiv
#5
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:08 AM
QUOTE (rxnarang @ Feb 4 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is one near the pump and the other near the burn pit?
My guess is that these are provided to avoid draining down the liquid either way; or to isolate the liquid in the pipe.
Do you have a sketch or something we can visualise? It is very difficult to look for a plausible cause for this design else.
My e-mail is rxnarang@gmail.com. Please feel free to write to me if you have anything interesting.
Regards
Rajiv
My guess is that these are provided to avoid draining down the liquid either way; or to isolate the liquid in the pipe.
Do you have a sketch or something we can visualise? It is very difficult to look for a plausible cause for this design else.
My e-mail is rxnarang@gmail.com. Please feel free to write to me if you have anything interesting.
Regards
Rajiv
Fallah,
I guess your question is not difficult. But i believe your question with insufficient neccesary information e.g. sketch, which high point you are referring to, etc. has resulted weak response.
rxnarang has made guesses and questions on his/her response. Please provide the necessary details for further advice.
#6
Posted 19 February 2008 - 09:57 PM
Fallah,
Thank you for the additional information. It looks like the pump is at grade, while the burn pit is at +100 m elevation!! Is it on a top of a hill?
Anyway, with this configuration it is obvious why we have high points. As the line rises to 100 m the topography will not allow a smooth rise. The line will have high points simply because of the physical routing it needs.
Regards
Rajiv
Thank you for the additional information. It looks like the pump is at grade, while the burn pit is at +100 m elevation!! Is it on a top of a hill?
Anyway, with this configuration it is obvious why we have high points. As the line rises to 100 m the topography will not allow a smooth rise. The line will have high points simply because of the physical routing it needs.
Regards
Rajiv
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