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[zull]

hi all..

i'm newbie here and came from malaysia..i want to ask the question about my final year project..
my final project's title is OPTIMIZATION ON THE REACTIVE DISTILLATION COLUMN BY USING ADVANCE PROCESS CONTROL..so if u all have the ideas about my project please do not hesitate contact me to share your ideas..nice to meet u all...
this is my ym id..mr.zull@yahoo.com

[Qalander (Chem)]

hi all..

i'm newbie here and came from malaysia..i want to ask the question about my final year project..
my final project's title is OPTIMIZATION ON THE REACTIVE DISTILLATION COLUMN BY USING ADVANCE PROCESS CONTROL..so if u all have the ideas about my project please do not hesitate contact me to share your ideas..nice to meet u all...
this is my ym id..mr.zull@yahoo.com

Dear zull Hello/Good Afternoon,

It is a real pity that every now and then our young colleagues are coming in with in-sufficinet data and vague/unclear presentation of their query.

This does not help them either the OP nor it is helpful to generate sufficient support/help from forum's intending colleagues.

Hope you reallize this to get the best support from forum
Regards
Qalander

[Andrei]

zull,

I may suggest to start with some clarifications of the title: optimization of what? What are the objectives of your endeavor?
Than specify from what perspective you will treat the subject: process or instrumentation?
Than give us a feel on what is the reference level of process control "advanced" refers to. For some parts of the world a very simple PLC to turn the things on and off at specified times means advanced control. In other words, how advanced has to be that process control?

[zull]

zull,

I may suggest to start with some clarifications of the title: optimization of what? What are the objectives of your endeavor?
Than specify from what perspective you will treat the subject: process or instrumentation?
Than give us a feel on what is the reference level of process control "advanced" refers to. For some parts of the world a very simple PLC to turn the things on and off at specified times means advanced control. In other words, how advanced has to be that process control?

andrei,

actually i'm proposed this title to my supervisor@lecture..and finally he were agreed with my suggestion's title and he also asked me to find the sources or whatever that regarding with this title..you're right!! i must do the clarifications first of my title..can u help me to do this clarification? the perspective that i want to treat is about the process and separation inside the column by using process control, no matter it's simple process control or advance process control..

my suggestion is i only choose 1 or 2 parameters that involve in the column like temperature and pressure..control them by using process control principles to make that the reaction inside the column were 100% completely..yes i know that it's impossible to archived 100% but it' ok when the separation inside the column were higher than before we applied the process control principles.

[Andrei]

zull,

I suggest you to do some research to find out what are the driving forces that in some cases reactive distillation is preferred to a more conventional configuration like reactor followed by a distillation tower.
Maybe you should try to find out some specific examples of reactive distillation that work well, analyze them and start from there.
Without being a process control expert, according to my understanding, advanced control means going beyond simple PID algorithms to control temperatures and flows and pressures.
I don't know, maybe I would envision a rigorous model of the chemical reactions happening in the tower and controlling the tower parameters to maximize a yield or a conversion. Maybe a real time heat and mass balance and control based on that to achieve a certain objective. Maybe looking into some operating scenarios, or predictive/adaptive control.
For me, advanced means more than simple pressures and temperatures control.
Usually reactive distillation applications in a lot of cases are covered by patents. Following that, I would expect that if you want to get something out of this subject it will require some degree of creativity from your part also.

Good luck

[romeoracz]

hi all..

i'm newbie here and came from malaysia..i want to ask the question about my final year project..
my final project's title is OPTIMIZATION ON THE REACTIVE DISTILLATION COLUMN BY USING ADVANCE PROCESS CONTROL..so if u all have the ideas about my project please do not hesitate contact me to share your ideas..nice to meet u all...
this is my ym id..mr.zull@yahoo.com

What environment do you use to model the RD ?

I'm working on my final year project as well !

I think we can collaborate on this issue !

email :romeoracz@gmail.com
Y! id :romeoracz@yahoo.com