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[lumuel]

I am having a hard time doing the market study for the technology or service for our plant design...I am hoping that some of you could help me figure out...Thank you...

[lumuel]

We are about to design a claus unit with SCOT technology...I don't know how can I start with the market study since the primary concern is the service that we are going to render...The internet has limited information regarding the global and local market of this technology...I am wandering If somebody have come across this subject...thank you and god bless...

[Dacs]

First of all, pinoy ka ba?

 

I'm wondering, where do you plan to get the raw materials for your proposal?

 

SRUs can be usually found as an integral part of NG/Oil Refinery installations and I have yet to heard a standalone SRU for the purpose of producing elemental Sulfur.

 

The thing is, SRUs are not primarily built to earm money, but as a necessary evil to comply with environmental regulations. So I can't imagine how this will make money.

[lumuel]

Yes Mr. Dacs I am filipino...This is only a requirement for us who are studying under Chemical Engineering course in our university...This is part of our plant design...We are planning to add this unit in case that Shell located at Tabangao, Bats. will be expanding in order to meet the capacity...

[lumuel]

we are just going to be designers of SRUs with the SCOT technology...This topic for plant design was given to us by our professor in the university...thank you for the reply...are you a filipino too?

[Dacs]

Yes, Pinoy din ako

 

Then you have to focus on these things:

1. SRU capacity relates on Refinery Throughput and the quality of crude. You can estimate the sulfur content of crude by checking the Assay of crude oil used by Shell in Tabangao.

2. Feasibility study for this can be based on the cost of erecting another unit vs importing refined products from overseas. Remember, Chevron closed their refinery in the Philippines because of this.

 

But I can't imagine how you'd going to do the design for SRU, this is pretty complex. There are companies that specializes on this and I'm wondering how involved you team is planning to have this done.

 

Good luck

[lumuel]

We have acquired in the internet the usual feed composition of the gas from the amine extractor which will enter our unit...but my problem is the market study..I am having a hard time since there is limited info in the internet...Our professor said that we should focus on the market of the technology but it's very hard to find articles and data regarding this subject...

 

Thank you for the advise!

[Dacs]

Take it to PM, we can talk more freely

[lumuel]

How po? I added you as a friend and sent a message..

[lumuel]

Sir, good morning po...ask q lng po if what will be better,  iconsider pa ung income from the recovered sulfur or we will just rely on the compensation the company will be giving us for designing the unit? kc po wla nman po kc mxdo demand for sulfur and enough nman po ung supply as of this moment ng sulfur..tpos according to survey and study po eh bka magkaoversupply pa ng sulfur in the coming years..

 

Tpos sir naicp q dn po if we are to focus on the cost of installation of the recovery unit why don't we use the h2 gas which is a product of the side reaction of the recovery process as an energy source, sir what do you think about that idea? Is it possible or it will just make the study harder?

 

Thank you and God bless 

[Dacs]

I got your PM, and I suggest you edit that one out because people here won't be able to make out what you want to ask.

 

[lumuel]

Good afternoon.

 

I would like to ask if what is better,  to consider the income from the recovered sulfur or just rely on the compensation the company will be giving us for designing the unit? the demand for sulfur is not that high and according to some studies there will be an oversupply of sulfur in the coming years.

 

Also, if we are to focus on the cost of installation of the recovery unit why don't we use the h2 gas which is a product of the side reaction of the recovery process as an energy source,  what do you think about this idea? Is it possible or it will just make the study harder?

 

I hope many can post their suggestions and comments regarding this matter. Your posts will be highly appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance and God Bless

[lumuel]

Is SCOT Technology the best, I mean is it the most effective, most efficient and most economical?

[Dacs]

Is SCOT Technology the best, I mean is it the most effective, most efficient and most economical?

In your case, it's moot because you're basing your study on an existing Shell refinery.

 

But if you must know, there are other competing technologies that maximizes the efficiency of Sulfur capture. SCOT is one of them. Another is Superclaus. The one that I'm most familiar with came from Worley-Parson, which is a variant of SCOT.

[lumuel]

ahmm...we have also saw that SUPERCLAUS..but we are more of the economics,,our main focus is on how to lower our cost since many technologies can achieve the efficiency that the SCOT can actually offer..

[lumuel]

We are also working on now on the material balance of the claus unit but we are having trouble with the side reactions..we don't know the extent of these side reactions..How can we know what's going to react and how much have been reacted for each compound that is present in the gas mixture after going through the unit..?

 

Thank you.

[lumuel]

Unfortunately after our proposal with the panel...We were advised to change topic since according to them this plant will entail a huge amount of investment..and for us apprentice according to them it's too aggressive...so we will change our topic..I'm wondering if somebody can advise or give us topic for our plant design..

 

Thank you very much in advance...I hope you can help us out..God Bless..