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#1 JEBradley

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 11:05 AM

Following on from the lengthy thread about Sizing Breather Valves........

ASSUMING I have identified all the possible relief scenarios and decided which is my 'worst case' and then designed a relief area accordingly.....

Can a breather valve (pressure/vac or compensation valve whatever you will) be used alone to act as the relief device?

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#2 Art Montemayor

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 12:00 PM

JE:

Yes, it can.


#3 djack77494

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 09:05 AM

QUOTE (JEBradley @ Sep 10 2008, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can a breather valve be used alone to act as the relief device?


JE,
Perhaps the question should have been worded using "should" rather than "can". I assume you are refering to a "conservation vent" valve as your "breather valve". I almost always see tanks with conservation vents also having "emergency vent" valves or other alternatives for venting of gases/vapors from the tank. I believe Art is right in stating that this is not an absolute requirement, but I also feel that it is a very prudent step to take. Too much is at stake to rely on a single mechanical device (my opinion only).

#4 Qalander (Chem)

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE (djack77494 @ Sep 11 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JEBradley @ Sep 10 2008, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can a breather valve be used alone to act as the relief device?


JE,
Perhaps the question should have been worded using "should" rather than "can". I assume you are refering to a "conservation vent" valve as your "breather valve". I almost always see tanks with conservation vents also having "emergency vent" valves or other alternatives for venting of gases/vapors from the tank. I believe Art is right in stating that this is not an absolute requirement, but I also feel that it is a very prudent step to take. Too much is at stake to rely on a single mechanical device (my opinion only).


Dear JE Hello/Good Morning,
May I add that wherever such Pressure/Vaccume Valves (i.e.Breathing) devices installed on storage tanks also have flame arrestors; then some paticulates/sticky materials from
    breathing-out or breathing-in may clog flame arrestors and
      consequentiall restrict the operation in emegency.
        In order to ensure integrity/safety of the storage tanks it is safer to have another relief valve or more to cater for this.
        Hope this helps;although principally Art is right, but Doug has pointed out noteworthy suggestion to include in any evaluation for design/installation.
        Best Regards
        Qalander




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